Black Gate Games’ John Gould and Elonka Dunin talk about their experiences at the 2015 Game Developers Conference. In this episode, John Gould talks about the significance of the Ultima games on his life and career, and what it was like to finally meet “Lord British” (Richard Garriott) and “Lord Blackthorn” (Starr Long) at this year’s conference, where they were showing off their current project, “Shroud of the Avatar”.

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